tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post7008784302571902730..comments2024-03-11T10:22:24.331+11:00Comments on MaxDefense Philippines: Updates on the Sensors, Fire Control System, and Weapons Systems Upgrade of the Philippine Navy's Jacinto-class vesselsmax monterohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217644456257635987noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-69149207022449195932016-02-08T13:45:58.678+11:002016-02-08T13:45:58.678+11:00Yes you are right that the Maestrales / Lupos coul...Yes you are right that the Maestrales / Lupos could have been here. But that wont change the will of the Chinese on building their artificial islands. It won't be easy with the Reds. We need to be ready for the long haul here and having brand new and more capable ships & equipment will have its rewards.<br />Maverickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874858453771305904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-1384905298502422972016-01-02T19:57:00.619+11:002016-01-02T19:57:00.619+11:00Yes indeed the Maestrales and the Lupo could have ...Yes indeed the Maestrales and the Lupo could have already been here pattolling the WPS so del Pilar and Alcaraz can get their upgrades but then again the two new frigates can square off against them so it's not really a bad deal except for this stupid biddingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-11042948332282166522015-12-15T23:46:53.122+11:002015-12-15T23:46:53.122+11:00If the Italian package pushed through then today o...If the Italian package pushed through then today our navy would have two Maestrale class-frigates and a Lupo-class frigate which would give us five frigates in service but...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-48489641532601117152015-12-08T01:12:09.186+11:002015-12-08T01:12:09.186+11:00Sir Max, who will the next Hamilton-class frigate ...Sir Max, who will the next Hamilton-class frigate and the Pohang be named after? Do you have any idea?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-88119582812360726742015-12-06T21:54:12.496+11:002015-12-06T21:54:12.496+11:00By 2017, I'd like to see our navy operating:
...By 2017, I'd like to see our navy operating:<br /><br />Three Gregorio del Pilar class frigates armed with Phalanx CIWS and harpoon missiles<br /><br />Three Jacinto Class Corvettes with something like the Sea Skua missile or Spike NLOS<br /><br />One "fully armed" Pohang corvette, I don't care if it's Flight 1, 2, or 3 as long as it has missiles<br /><br />Two SSV's with armaments<br /><br />And I'd like to have the bidding process for the two new frigates finally finished<br /><br />-RodneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-17367046819541213052015-11-20T07:18:49.431+11:002015-11-20T07:18:49.431+11:00OT Max, German navy has decommissioned last year a...OT Max, German navy has decommissioned last year a few of their disel propulsioned Gepard fast attack and Bremen frigates class. Any chance Phil can get a hand on those? Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-13221137138441551682015-11-15T13:43:06.492+11:002015-11-15T13:43:06.492+11:00Its the BNS Somudra Avijan, a Hamilton-class of th...Its the BNS Somudra Avijan, a Hamilton-class of the Bangladesh Navy. She's on her way home after delivery by the US.max monterohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217644456257635987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-58444226468230653092015-11-14T12:48:21.002+11:002015-11-14T12:48:21.002+11:00Sir Max,
Just today November 14, 2015 @ 7am a saw...Sir Max,<br /><br />Just today November 14, 2015 @ 7am a saw a Frigate docking at our international port with body # F28 or F29 with PHP Flag, is this a new unit for us? its model is the same as Del Pilar.....<br /><br />McPadzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-92022767473248967252015-11-11T02:00:37.876+11:002015-11-11T02:00:37.876+11:00This can be more cost effective giving the Jacinto...This can be more cost effective giving the Jacinto class 7km range missile capability and CIWS with sensors<br /><br />http://deftechph.blogspot.com/2014/06/katran-m-ciws-close-in-weapon-system.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-18845659148273882352015-11-09T18:09:32.410+11:002015-11-09T18:09:32.410+11:00sir max! this could be an interesting article. htt...sir max! this could be an interesting article. http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/in-south-china-sea-dispute-did-america-blink-first?f=must_readsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-82257154353808477762015-11-08T05:21:05.612+11:002015-11-08T05:21:05.612+11:00How can Costa Rica be the #1 worst military in the...How can Costa Rica be the #1 worst military in the world when everyone knows that this Central American country has no military in the first place? They might as well put the Vatican, Liechtenstein and Nauru on this list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-38720715410445415672015-11-06T18:11:14.014+11:002015-11-06T18:11:14.014+11:00Wag na kayo mga umasa mga ungas... Wala nang mangy...Wag na kayo mga umasa mga ungas... Wala nang mangyayari sa Bansa natin mga gago.. Puro lang naman nasinungalingan si Max.. hahahahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-91689313871667824202015-11-02T23:41:03.085+11:002015-11-02T23:41:03.085+11:00Thanks for the post and also for updating us about...Thanks for the post and also for updating us about what is going on around us. Hope so that you may get your own gun with ease by joining the <a href="http://www.bostonfirearms.com" rel="nofollow">Firearms safety training classes</a> and get the license. These licensed gun can help you in gaining the confidence to walk on roads alone without any fear.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12455779831351440576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-76456891694879183852015-10-31T01:17:20.928+11:002015-10-31T01:17:20.928+11:00If my memory serves me right, the project was spli...If my memory serves me right, the project was split into two because there are 2 sources of funding. The 224M is under GAA while the rest is under AFPMF.. interestingly, the DBM released another 224M for a second gun..you can verify this at the website of DBB. It is under Capital Outlay of the PN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-70493147888883839382015-10-31T00:38:53.956+11:002015-10-31T00:38:53.956+11:00Corruption alone does not explain it. If you are a...Corruption alone does not explain it. If you are a close friend to a Malaysian or Indonesian, ask him/her about corruption in his/her homeland and you will hear a litany about corrupt government officials. This probably is true for every Southeast Asian country except maybe Singapore (and even then they aren't clean either). Transparency International ranks the Philippines in the middle of the pack in their Corruption Perception Index, both worldwide and within Southeast Asia.<br /><br />While corruption worsens the problem, I think there are two other reasons that are more significant. The first is overdependency on American help. This dates back from Marcos' time. Much of the supposed strength of AFP during his regime was actually handouts from America. This legacy is still crippling the AFP. Perhaps not directly, but the attitude of "America will protect us" has an unspoken corollary of "thus it is unnecessary to spend money on the AFP". And thus the AFP remains chronically underfunded. This also shows up in lack of urgency (what's the hurry? America will protect us), reluctance to fund the modernization (that's so expensive, why not wait until America gives us their used equipment instead?), long term planning and R&D (why bother? Let's just follow America), etc. There is a big difference between coordinating with your allies (good) and being a dependent (bad). The AFP is trying to do the former, but we can see the later attitude is still quite widespread even today. That attitude needs to go.<br /><br />The other factor is/was distrust of the military. During President Corazon Aquino's time there were six military coup attempts. These failed, but it created the impression that the military must be defanged so it wouldn't threaten the civilian government. It didn't help that there were a few more coup attempts after that. The perception was "if the military doesn't support me, why should I support them?"<br /><br />Thing are getting better these days. The antipathy toward the military, while still present in some segments of the people, are lessened. More people are recognizing that the AFP must be able to stand on its own too and while allies are great, one must not assume that they will take care of everything. Still long ways to go though.<br /><br />Regarding military aid, the U.S. already helps the Philippines a lot. However, the U.S. has their own interests too and their military aid is a means to achieve those interests. They do not give military aid out of the kindness of their heart (that would be building wells in remote villages and funding local clinics and the like, not aircrafts and warships). For the past two decades military aid to the Philippines gave bad return on investment. The Philippines spent very little on defense, so if the U.S. gave higher end stuff it would be wasted and probably will break down too soon due to lack of maintenance. Too many politicians back then automatically derided everything the U.S. did. The Philippines had nothing solid in exchange for military aid. So what's in it for the U.S.? Allies are supposed to help each other, but up until recently the flow of help is one-sided. The AFP's patrol assets are inadequate in number and quality, so the U.S. provides the intelligence, not the other way around. The AFP doesn't have any significant capability to project power. In any realistic fight the AFP might as well not be there. Prior to EDCA the U.S. can't count on logistic support from the Philippines (and even today it isn't certain yet). So what's in it for the U.S.? It's actually thanks to the shared history that the Philippines weren't cut off entirely.<br /><br />Things are starting to change in that respect too. But honestly worrying about the amount of U.S. military aid is tangential. When people looks for an ally, they look for a strong one. They don't want an ally that's so weak that it will just drag them down. Build a credible defense and allies will come to you offering help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-61624880775423087102015-10-28T13:09:53.492+11:002015-10-28T13:09:53.492+11:00Good analysis and question Mr Anonymous. I read so...Good analysis and question Mr Anonymous. I read some interesting theory somewhere that i want to share.<br /><br />The Philippines messy military start in Marcos era where they grow corrupt and patronizing is rampage. It also doesn't help when the military is abusing its power to the peoples. <br /><br />After Marcos gone, Philippine enter the era of many military coup. This again tarnish the image of the arms forces in the public eyes and decrease its professionalism. <br /><br />At this point Civilian government and public don't want the military to grow stronger as their fear of another coup or another repression. Thus deny big budget and limit the spending. Why would they want the army to have tank, if they fear the tank will be use to oppress them?<br /><br />At the same time limited budget and support, reduce the Philippines arm forces in quality, discipline and morals. This resulting the corruption is even more rampant and thus decreasing the public image even more. <br /><br />So it became a vicious cycle where the government reduce the military support and the military grow corrupt, resulting the government reducing its support even more. <br /><br />The other two factor is the believe that USA will always support Philippine and the mentality of the peoples. <br /><br />The believes that USA will always support Philippine is so chronic that many believe that USA will go help them beyond the treaty that was set. This is not true as the USA will not go beyond the treaty obligation, but public and politician seem to ignore it. In fact many politician still use USA protection and support as reason to not modernize the AFP and divert the funds. <br /><br />As for mentality, it also show that many peoples stuck with the past and bring up old past deeds. They will remind USA about Philippine support, as allies in the regions. Ignoring that USA have little sentimental feeling and probably already do so much for Philippine in the past. In fact u also mention this in your post. Why? What do u expect? All of your neighbors buy their weapons with cash, not sympathy or old sentiment. This mentality will not work.<br /><br />Hope that help answer your question and sorry if im wrong as im not a Filipino. Best luck for your nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-37937152495351108952015-10-28T01:01:27.758+11:002015-10-28T01:01:27.758+11:00Seeing Saudi Arabia on the lists alone makes me do...Seeing Saudi Arabia on the lists alone makes me doubtful on this articleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-56381130317136280302015-10-27T12:51:13.127+11:002015-10-27T12:51:13.127+11:00hi!
this comment/query might be out of place cons...hi! <br />this comment/query might be out of place considering the topic, but i figured what the hell.<br /><br />i grew up taking superficial looks at things military, never really appreciating the fine details in the awesome way this blogger has, and is able to apply. ;j<br /><br />with idle time recently though, gave into my vice of wikipedia surfing, and one thing led to another -- ended up, self-flagellating again, comparing the AFP to other SEA armed forces. <br /><br />I hope can then ask, to i guess people with somehow shared interests as mine that i just never found before - what are the main reasons why we lagged behind? sure, medyo pointless siya to spend time on, with airstrips being built inside our eez, the abu sayaf still operating within sight of a major metropolis (davao) etc. etc. but aside from satisfying the trivia part of our brains, maybe it might help really determine where the logjams are in our efforts to keep in step and yes, at least have a credible posture for security.<br /><br />I suppose many factors are there, but might i ask - might corruption/organizational culture unique to the philippines and the legacy of the US defense umbrella be the main culprits?<br /><br />Haha, it spawns many questions - but if the blogger, or, any informed reader would make it to here, maybe there might be some value in each.<br /><br />I couldn't help but compare our assets to those of nations with similar or lower GNP - central american or north african states for example. How can Morocco have supersonic air superiority fighters? And Uruguay, missile carrying and ASW capable vessels? Having airspace near areas of operation for well, key communist states (considering historical power relations), and, the archipelagic nature of our country, why didn't we acquire all these capabilities as other SEA nations did in the 70's to 80's? <br /><br />If only the general populace knew how defenseless our military would be to a missile strike of a single missile armed boat from any neighbor, or, how we would be pretty much hostaged by a foriegn power if they positioned a submarine in philippine waters.. it really befuddles the mind.<br /><br />Would it be a "spoiled" AFP - to the military umbrella of the US, that morphed into an internal counterinsurgency operations institution? Nabigla lang tayo sa Pinatubo + Philippine Senate? Kasi sa laki ng gnp natin, tapos ganon lang kadami ang napupunta sa logistics/equipment and operations, grabe ang.. malamang na pagnanakaw na nagawa. Sus, even just SAR choppers, short-strip cargo aircraft or patrol boats versus piracy, or large transports for goods across the seas. As a reflection of responsivenss and attunedness to the people's needs, wouldnt the running of the AFP be a profound failure?<br /><br />And the other poignant question - how come other allies of the US get meatier equipment transfers from the USA? Considerable ang pagkafrontline ng Thailand halimbawa sa Vietnam, pero grabe naman - all those M60 battle tanks, the Knox class frigate, design for the Ratanakosin corvette. Sige, no permanent friends and enemies only permanent interests; succeeding generations of Americans might limit their feelings of kinship with the PHL by naming vessels Bataan, Leyte Gulf and so on and so forth.. But one would.. maybe some how expect a more magnanimous effort for a nation with a shared history and shared sacrifice as the PHL.<br /><br />Those are pretty much the queries; habang napakatindi ng insight at sophistication na nashashare ng maxdefense - at salamat - di matiis na maisip ito. Baka kako sa mga sagot, makiliti rin ang isip. At malay, makaambag.<br /><br />Salamat!anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15561759259285849063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-47599302614418111782015-10-27T08:04:47.669+11:002015-10-27T08:04:47.669+11:00Is it even necessary to respond to such a sloppily...Is it even necessary to respond to such a sloppily researched article? It reflects insecurity and defensiveness on the part of the PH doesn't it?<br /><br />A country builds an armed force as a hedge against uncertainty, not to take part in dumb Internet ranking exercises. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-2330462700515875942015-10-26T12:51:53.868+11:002015-10-26T12:51:53.868+11:00asa kapa kay irriberi!!!!!!1asa kapa kay irriberi!!!!!!1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-85061682799334806002015-10-26T12:50:26.363+11:002015-10-26T12:50:26.363+11:00Kaya naman ng gobyerno natin na bumili ng missile....Kaya naman ng gobyerno natin na bumili ng missile...pero nakapagtataka hangang ngayon ayaw pa rin ng afp or dnd na mag purchase?????? Siguro hanggang pangarap nalang muna yan sa sambayanang filipino.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-38346080521116031832015-10-26T12:23:46.120+11:002015-10-26T12:23:46.120+11:00kung ayaw nila gumastos sa credible defense upgrad...kung ayaw nila gumastos sa credible defense upgrades eh isara na lang nila ang Phil Navy. wala na lang Navy and AirForce. Puro Army na lang with helmets. diyan makatipid talaga sila. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-55869135191413137252015-10-26T12:20:30.623+11:002015-10-26T12:20:30.623+11:00I agree. unfortunately most of our leaders both ci...I agree. unfortunately most of our leaders both civilian and military are stupid. that's why we have no respect throughout the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-74301874525471402532015-10-25T18:42:01.461+11:002015-10-25T18:42:01.461+11:00important to refresh and maintain these old hulls ...important to refresh and maintain these old hulls - they are 30 years old after all...<br /><br />but beyond the guns and radar, i thought a simple, low cost item that should be equipped is a high-pressure water cannon. <br /><br />as tension in the SCS increases, ships need non-lethal options so they can support the state to achieve limited political objectives. get real - the guns are important but no-one's really gonna shoot at a chinese coast guard ship with an oto-melera 76. <br /><br />u want to ram them, harass them, squirt them with water cannons, jam their comms and radar, etc. Once they leave, its a limited victory - till next time.<br /><br />the minute anyone sinks someone else's naval vessels might be the start of WW3 in Asia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838050795464426329.post-1265814377518586462015-10-25T12:48:35.886+11:002015-10-25T12:48:35.886+11:00What I like the Jacintos to have are either the Mi...What I like the Jacintos to have are either the Mistral (for anti-air) or the Spike (NLOS would be better). I don't think the PN has a budget for both. And correct me if I am wrong, either would be cheaper than having torpedoes on the Jacintos.<br /><br />I'm not sure torpedoes would be a cheap upgrade, since you have to install ASW capabilities on the Jacintos.<br /><br />- NeoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com