Friday, March 20, 2015

3rd Attempt to Re-Bid the 155mm Towed Howitzer with Ammunition Acquisition Project for the Philippine Army and Marine Corps

On February 2015, the Philippines' Department of National Defense (DND) released a new Invitation to Bid for the 155mm Towed Howitzer with Ammunition acquisition project for the Philippine Army and Philippine Marine Corps. This is actually the 3rd attempt to bid the project after the last attempt made last year failed after Elbit Systems Land & C4I failed to pass the post-bid qualifications. This is also the 3rd time that MaxDefense released a blog regarding the project with the 1st and 2nd bid attempt can be accessed HERE and HERE, respectively.


Elbit Systems Land & C4I of Israel previously won the tender to supply the 155mm Towed Howitzer and Ammunition. But was disqualified after failing the post-bid qualifications. They are expected to join the project bidding again this time.


The contract remains the same as the previous tender attempt, which includes the supply and delivery of 12 brand new 155mm towed howitzer systems, 240 rounds of high explosive (HE) cartridge, and an integrated logistics support (ILS) package for the entire system. The Approved Budget for the Contract (ABC) remains at Php 438,620,000.00. The pre-bid conference was scheduled last March 5, 2015, and the bid submission and opening was originally scheduled on March 19, 2015 but was moved to March 26, 2015 as per a new supplemental bid bulletin released on March 10, 2015.

So far, MaxDefense has not determined the interested bidders for the project, although it is expected that previous interested entities will be trying their chance to bag the project. This includes Elbit Systems Land & C4I, who won the tender last year but was eliminated after failing the post-bid qualifications. 

Among the requirements released by the DND are for the product to be in use with the origin country's armed forces or by at least 2 other foreign armed forces, and that the bidders must be the manufacturer of the goods (howitzer system and ammunition). Changes in the requirement now is that the bidders should have also completed a similar project within 5 years from date of submission of bid. Previously the requirement was for 10 years, which could have been one of the reasons why the previous tender was only participated by a few bidders, and probably also the reason why Elbit did not got the project.

A supplemental bid bulletin released on March 17, 2015 made changes also on the requirements regarding the major parts of the howitzer system. Previously the requirement allowed subcontracting to a number of parts except for the barrel, breach lock, and central structure of carriage. This requirement reinforces its earlier requirement that the bidder must be the manufacturer of the goods itself. 


MaxDefense hopes that many other suppliers that did not participate in the previous bid attempts, like Hyundai WIA and it's KH-179 towed howitzer, will participate this time.
Photo taken from KDN website.


Failure of bidding for this project will enable the DND to do a negotiated bid with possible suppliers, which was the same process applied with the acquisition of UH-1 helicopters for the Philippine Air Force.

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MaxDefense will be updating its readers on this project through this blog entry and at MaxDefense @ Facebook community page. It is expected that this project's bid submission and opening schedule will not move as much as the other projects of the DND. Hopefully more bidders will be interested in this project than before.



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April 4, 2015 (morning):
The DND released a Supplemental Bid Bulletin Nr. DND-PA/PMC-155-2015-003 last March 26, 2015, wherein there were changes on the specifications regarding the outsourcing of components, which now allows for all parts EXCEPT the barrel, breech block, and central structure of carriage. It also changed the bid submission and opening schedule from March 26, 2015 to April 14, 2015.

But due to the late release of this supplemental bid bulletin, it appears that the bidders did not know of the changes and 2 interested bidders, Elbit Systems Land & C4I of Israel and local company Stone of David, were present last March 26. MaxDefense is still confirming if the claim of an anonymous reader that Stone of David made known their intention to drop out of the contest last March 26, and only Elbit Systems Land & C4I is the only firm bidder that remain in the contest. Otherwise, the bid submission and opening on April 14 appears to be final. MaxDefense will closely monitor this project as it is already in its 3rd attempt, and any failure will allow the DND to go for a negotiated bid.



April 4, 2015 (afternoon):
It was confirmed by a source that Stone of David cancelled their participation in the 155mm Towed Howitzer Acquisition Project. Stone of David's principal for the 155mm Towed Howitzer, BNT-Tvornica Masina i Hidraulike, d.d. based in Bosnia-Hercegovina, provided 2 reasons for their cancellation:

1. The specified test and acceptance procedures indicated in the project's technical specifications "are not adaptable with the National Military Standard Testing Procedure being used (by their principal), BNT-TMiH".

2. Their principal for the 155mm HE ammunitions, Israel Military Industries (IMI), cannot open their production line as the quantity required by the contract is not within the acceptable quantity.

With this, then Elbit Systems Land & C4I remains the only other bidder for the project. It remains to be seen what will be the outcome of the bid opening on April 14, 2015, as anything can still happen if documentation becomes a problem again. MaxDefense hopes that there won't be any hook-ups from now on as the losing side on these delays are the Philippine Army and Philippine Marine Corps, and the Filipino people in general.


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April 24, 2015:

This project has finally moved forward again, as the bid submission and opening proceeded last April 14, 2015. Only one proponent submitted their bid, Elbit Systems Land & C4I, as expected from our previous update due to the withdrawal of Stone of David-BNT-Tvornica Masina i Hidraulike. 


Elbit Systems was declared the single lowest calculated bidder with a bid amount of Php 410,849,184.00, with all their documents and requirements found to be complying to the tender requirements. Their offer is the Soltam M-71 39-caliber 155mm towed howitzer. According to MaxDefense sources, the budget allocated (ABC) for the project could not afford to acquire 12 units plus ammo of the Soltam Athos, which is the foremost 155mm towed howitzer product of Elbit Systems-Soltam and is more automated than the M-71.

Post bid qualifications is expected to be made soon in Israel by next month. If Elbit Systems passes the post bid qualifications, they can be awarded with the project and a contract may be signed soon.

48 comments:

  1. As far as you know sir max how many 155mm howitzer our armed forces have?

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    1. Around 26 in 2 different systems.

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    2. any up date sir max regarding the 155mm,did the DND increase the budget? to afford the so called soltam athos.

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  2. MAX, this project is long overdue. Actually this howitzer is due for delivery if awarded. I cannot understand why the DND officials cannot be flexible without viiolating the procedures and have to go beyond the parameters achieving the principle of transparency and accountabillity without sacrificing its objectivity within the time frame . I mean if a certain bidding failed on the first and second for the same reasons at least have a contingency plan Devise at least.3-5 plans so that the objecfive will be met. Maybe thats the reason why the big priiority projects was at stall

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    1. Actually the DND is tied by the requirement to have projects tendered rather than enter into negotiations. The DND knows very well its limitations and can only wait for changes in procurement policies. There is movement to exempt the military from bidding requirements due to obvious reasons.

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  3. Sir Max, Immediately i already see the problem.

    DND ask for product that already been use by the origin country's armed forces or by at least 2 other foreign armed forces. This mean u ask product that already adopted at least once. Meaning Phillipine want a good proven product. Nothing wrong with that, except that kind of product tend to be expensive.

    There is actually many military product that no one have buy yet but they're are actually good and was sell at discount price. And there is even a failure bidder that u can buy at even discount price.

    Take a look at Doosan Tarantula DST that Indonesia get. Its actually a lost bidder against Hyundai Rooten. And they get it at a good price. The spec is almost the same as the winner, but it need 3 crew instead 2. But as long it pass Indonesian test field, then it's OK.

    If Philippine keep asking a good proven weapon, then they better prepare to pay a higher price.

    Hopefully they don't use this rule and expect getting a scorpion plane as no one buy them yet.

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    The second problem is why the gun creator must also the creator of the ammo? That is plain stupid. U should can buy ammo from anyone or made the ammo yourself. This will reduce bidder. What wrong using available market rounds? Are u plan to keep buying only from that company? That is sound over reliance and almost a monopoly.

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    The third is the time constrain that was reduce to 5. More quick more money.

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    The last is no subcontractor to the gun part. This mean that the maker must made nearly all them self. Meaning need major manufacture and more higher price.

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    Well that is what i can see as an amateur, so please correct me if im wrong. And sorry.

    BTW sir max what is integrated logistics support (ILS) package mean?

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    1. Maybe, just maybe, there are bidders who can manufacture the gun by themselves. With regards to the ammunition, MaxDefense is still verifying if this is included in the clause for no subcontracting.

      The Philippines was hurt in the past when it acquired unproven weapons systems. You can include the Simba IFV and the S-211. While the S-211 had other users like Singapore and Haiti, Italy did not use it, and Haiti only used the product for a short time so support for the product became difficult. From then on the DND and AFP prefers using proven products to be sure.

      ILS means that the manufacturer will be providing support, spare parts, repairs, training, and other services to sustain the equipment for a certain time, normally 2 years.

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    2. The only manufacture that nearly or entirely manufacture the weapon them self is tend to be East Europe manufacture. Namely Russia. Can i ask why Philippine don't like to buy weapon from Russia or other ex communist country?

      The ammunition is also stupid. While we understand that each different manufacture have different ammo product with their own quality and specification. It's stupid to rely only to their ammo. What happen if they jack up the price? We can't stop buying because we already buy the canon? That is monopoly. Is much better if the ammo can also come from other source.

      Sir Max i really think that all this unnecessary problem can be solve/simplify by doing a life test before buying.

      Worry about the quality of the ammo? Test it before buy it.
      Worry not suitable to Philippine? Test it before buy it.
      Worry about the parts that was made by sub contractor? Test it before buy it.

      If test is OK, buy it and if not, don't. Easy.

      Still why do they make the completion time to 5? Shorter time mean need the gun to be manufacture at higher speed. So the manufacture will need more assembly line, mean more high price.

      Thanks for replying and answering my question Sir Max.

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    3. >DND ask for product that already been use by the origin country's armed forces or by at least 2 other foreign armed forces


      why not dig Russian equipment for a change?
      they are dirt cheap, used by many countries and still reliable

      look at vietnam, they have a weaker economy than us but they have 2-3x more military capability than us

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    4. Aside from of the political perspective that America won't allow that to happen. If were going to look at Russian made wares, they suffer a lot in terms of reliability in the form of surviving combat. Russia's war doctrine has never changed, has only been updated; but the fact still remains that they treat their weapons system as something cheap and readily replaceable. So that means quantity over quality. That also follows with their former client states.

      Heres a simple analysis that I've read about Soviet/Russian tank design.

      http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2013/04/recurring-problems-of-soviet-tank-design.html

      Better if were going to source from other countries like Israel. :)

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    5. Who say American won't allow it? Are Philippine still their colony?

      Take a look at other USA allies, many of them buy Russian and China weapon. Even Iraq and Afghanistan Government is buying China and Russian Weapon with USA money. Even your neighbor Malaysia is buying weapon from Russia and China; and they still USA allies.

      Yes Russian and China weapon is not as good as any western weapon. But they are cheap, free from political string, easy to maintained and in the right hand is as deadly as the western weapon. And the most important is its still better than not having any weapon.

      Wake up everyone, Philippine can't afford to buy a decent western weapon or even if it can, it will not in needed quantity. What the point on waiting for donation of old weapon or buying a second hand weapon that will not really useful in war? And by the time Philippine buy a decent weapon it's to few that will not protect it's territory.

      Take a look at Bangladesh and Myanmar, both is economic weaker than Philippine and have smaller defense budget. But they are more hi tech, they navy have stealth navy ship with missile. They have tank and jet fighter. Philippine have none of those even with bigger budget.

      Wake up!!!! Russian weapon is not the best, but is better than weapon that we get from donation or buy second hand at even cheaper price.

      And be realistic. The west/Allies even the east will never donate their best or at least their decent old weapon. No one does. U always must pay.

      So don't think buying from Russia or communist or ex communist nation is a bad think. Instead u must think that keep un realistic dream is bad. Not owning weapon that decent is bad. Cold war is over long time ago. And all Philippine neighbor is buying from everyone.

      Wake up!!!

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    6. Well, good point about what you've said and I totally agree with you. Buy weapons that aren't fancy, weapons that are simple, reliable and cheap to maintain. Bravo! Bravo!

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    7. Gentlemen, if you please will allow me to share some validated information. First off, the 155mm Howitzer project does not require the manufacturer of the guns to also be the manufacturer of the ammunition. If you will only take sometime to go over the requirements in the bid documents of this project before posting your comments, then you'll be better informed. As to why we are not getting any russian made equipments, its actually simple, no russian manufacturer has yet gotten interest in participating in any of the biddings undertaken by our AFP/DND, hence the reason why. True, there are several Balkan State defense manufacturers (formerly Yugoslavia) who seem to be actively participating in several of the biddings being put out by our AFP/DND, but I can tell you (and you can try validating my statement here) that none of these Balkan State manufacturers are actually interested in participating in biddings on their own. As it is, defense manufacturers in both Serbian and Bosnian states doesn't have the financial capacity to initially pay for the acquisition and only to be later on paid 60 days (more likely 90 to 120 days in reality) after their delivery of the equipment. These defense manufacturers are dealing on a COD basis, meaning they give you the product and you pay for it upfront. If at all, there are local agents purportedly representing these Balkan State defense manufacturer in biddings here, but in truth, these manufacturers doesn't even have the inkling that they are actually participating in the bidding. The local agent, if he/she manages to secure the contract will only need to come up with the money to purchase the goods (weapons or ammunitions) either from the manufacturer he/she purports to represent or in the Blackmarket where the price is much cheaper (but the goods unreliable) where most of the war materiel which are remnants of the Bosnian War ended up, in order to make a killing.

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  4. When supermarket have no customer they increase discount for the goods to attract customer.

    When DND have no bidder they increase the specification but not the budget and pray for the best.

    Genius......

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  5. Why not just negotiate with countries like Sokor with their KH 179, or Singapore's SLWH pegasus. I bet they are cheaper compared to M777 of the US.

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    1. It is already impossible for the PA/PMC to got for M777 because of budget, although this was actually their artillery of choice. If this 3rd rebid fails, the DND can start negotiations with manufacturers.

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    2. Yeah the M777 is expensive. Australia bought 57 M777A2 for 248M dollars. So that is 4.35 Million Dollars each or 187 Million pesos each. We could just afford 2 M777A2 for that budget. Don't know about the A1 if how many we can get. :))

      There are a lot of suppliers out there. Soltam, Hyndai, and etc.

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  6. Sir Max how far the distance can be reach by 155 howitzer? and what is his diff. from 105? sorry folks for this question i just wanna know better...

    Any way as usual our Gov't should expedite this project, as one or two unit of this can be station also to Kalayan Group dba?
    McPadz

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    1. It depends, depending on the barrel length by caliber the DND specified. The longer the barrel, the longer the range.

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    2. 155 mm Howitzers = 14-20 kms with normal ammo depending on country of origin. The longest range would be 20-30 kms with rocket-assisted projectiles.

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  7. why it take so long to bid? how can we modernize our AFP if bidding will take so long..I am wondering too many technicalities..

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  8. It takes too long to bid because our government's bidding process is defective, our military budget is small, there are some corrupt but not all DND/AFP officers and there are always stupid morons who oppose
    AFP modernization.

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  9. Max, may I ask why the AFP and DND did pursue the acquisitions of mobile artillery gun system ATMOS 2000 or Semser? since both are made by Israel except the later is with collaboration with Kazakhstan. For sure the Army and the PMC are the most users of these because they are the forefront on all the armed struggles in the Southern Mindanao. and definitely these are the most sought after needs for the fire support request by our own ground forces. They can easily move out and provide fire support immediately and after they reposition itself again...just wondering why is it because of the procurement cost?

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    1. I am assuming that you were asking why the AFP did NOT go for self-propelled artillery guns (SPAG).

      From what I was told, it is because the AFP is worried about the reliability of the carrier vehicle and thus with the availability of the artillery itself. With SPAG, if the vehicle is out of commission for any reason, the entire artillery unit goes out of commission. With towed artillery, if the vehicle is out, they just hitch the gun to another truck.

      Since the AFP is short on heavy artillery, the AFP consider it is more important to ensure availability. The extra effort needed to deploy towed artillery is considered acceptable in light of that.

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  10. BIG QUESTION HERE . Will the Philippines get excess defense articles from SOUTH KOREA if they pick the winner of the frigate program is from their country ?

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  11. Sir max all of the asean members excluding brunei have MLRS in their inventories. Are there any plans of procuring such systems? maybe the astros from brazil? already in service with several countries.

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  12. Sir Max, I know these Howitzers and the M113A2s are already in the AFP's pipeline, and it would be wise for the AFP to strengthen the PA with MRAPs, UAVs and Sherpas given the opportunity to have these assets. The PA acquisitions doesn't necessarily mean it's geared towards the insurgents, but it wouldn't surprise anyone if that's really the case.

    I would think that the PA and PMC budget are lower than the PAF and PN, and that it is already set that the AFP's focus would be on external defense. But is there any chance, the PA/PMC would chip significant portions of the budget allocated for PAF and PN?

    Given there are plans for MBTs and the "ongoing" coastal battery acquisition/plans are under the PA (and those are pretty significant, albeit very expensive plans), is the PA taking a larger piece of the pie than what the AFP is expecting? Leading to cost cutting measures of maybe - 24 FA-50's in addition to the 12, rather than real MRFs? Missile boats rather than OPVs and Corvettes?

    - Neo

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    1. Im no Sir Max to answer your question but here is my answer to your question.

      It has always been and always have been geared towards the insurgency that's why since the beginning of the Red and Muslim insurgency the ground forces has been allocated the biggest budget among the branches of AFP. But most of the purchases made for the equipment of the ground forces has always been shared by the two. With this kind of budget allocation, the PN and PAF suffered extensively that they even can't buy new equipment and that we don't even have a credible defense. Another is that if were going to look closely at the budget of AFP, most go to troop and facility maintenance while only 12%-30% only goes to buying new equipment or modernization.

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    2. I'm no Sir Max but to answer your question, the ground forces has always been allocated the biggest budget in the AFP due to the nature of conflict in our country.

      In terms of buying equipment and modernization, less than 40 % is given and most goes to personnel, equipment and facility maintenance. The only solution would be to increase the budget of PAF and PN because they suffered terribly that were playing catch-up to build-up the capabilities of the AFP or should we say "Minimum Credible Defense" as they would like to phrase it. :)

      Remember, the first line of defense of an island nation is it's navy and airforce.

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    3. Thanks Armchair General, but just to be specific, I'm talking about this Modernization which started under PNoy where the PAF and PN reportedly has the biggest shares through all 3 phases.

      We already know the PAF and PN gets most of the budget in Phase 1 and it would still most likely be true up to phase 3. But with recent events, I wonder if they'll shift a significant portion of the budget allotted to the PAF and PN to the PA and PMC. Leaving the tight budget for procurement of ships and planes even tighter.

      - Neo

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  13. Within the next 2 years, China will have completed construction of its naval and air force facilities in our Spratly Island reefs and shoals. Chinese combat ships and fighter aircraft can now easily come & go within our Exclusive Economic Zone and preventing our local fishermen from fishing and harassing our PN/PCG patrol ships and boats within our remaining reefs inside our own EEZ. We have no defensive systems to protect our AFP assets and mainland if we go to war. I think the AFP/DND should give more priority to procuring 3-layers of long, medium & short-range radar & missile systems w/c can intercept incoming missiles & attack aircraft from distances of 300, 150 & 12-nautical miles from our coastline.

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    1. I think China is targeting the completion of construction of these military bases before the UNCLOS release of final decision on Philippine case.

      My question #1, why USA, Canada, Australia, Japan & South Korea are not putting more pressure to China to stop these military bases construction and militarization of South China Sea. This shipping lane is very important to them as same as to us.
      Or if USA, Canada, Australia, Japan & South Korea cannot do anything to stop China, then who will stop China? Philippines???

      My question #2, Is the US Congress letting China to control the whole China Sea, sea lanes and air space?

      My opinion is China is not interested in going to war or invading Palawan; they are securing militarily the whole South China Sea.
      If we installed missile system in Palawan, China will also install their missiles in their new bases in Spratly and I think USA doesn’t like that.

      If we sent our big Coast Guard ship in Spratly to protect our fisherman and be a presence against China’s reclamation works, China will sent much bigger coast guard ships and in big number say 1:10 ratio. And Philippine Coast Guard ship can do nothing to stop the reclamation/ construction works and the harassing of our fishermen.

      Remember Spratly Islands is not part of our MDT with USA and USA did not commit to defend Spratly Islands unlike Japan’s Ryukyu Islands where US assured to defend.

      Pny

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  14. sir max off topic but how about the bidding of 2 brand new frigates parang nakalimutan na ng DND & PN any update? Question bakit 6 lang na 155mm ang bini bid?

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  15. Been following maxdefense since its beginning. Kudos Sir max and more power.

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  16. Just to give an accurate update for the benefit of everyone. First, Elbit Systems Land & C4I Ltd. did passed all Post-Qualification requirements during the 2nd Bidding (including the Live Firing Tests) except for one single document it did not submit due to a vague application of a GPPB Resolution pertaining to the use of the CLC (at the time CLC is still accepted and was submitted by ESL in lieu of the NFCC).

    SoD on the other hand, representing a Bosnian company, BNT-Tvornica mašina i hidraulike, d.d., declared as the 2nd LCB, didn't even make the Post-Qualification stage when it failed to comply with the live firing requirement. Through a letter sent to the DND-BAC, SoD said that there are no gun ranges in Bosnia or Serbia with a 20km radius and requested that a pressure chamber test instead be employed in lieu of the live firing. The request of which was declined by the TWG and the BAC. Hence, the declaration of a failed bidding during the 2nd attempt.

    For this 3rd bidding, there were actually only two interested proponents (same as the last two biddings) which bought the bid documents, Stone of David and Elbit Systems Land & C4I Ltd. At the time of the bid submission and opening however (last March 26, 2015), SoD submitted a formal letter signifying its withdrawal from the contest, thus leaving ESL the lone bidder for this project. Unfortunately, the opening of the bid cannot proceed at the time due to a clerical error in the last Bid Bulletin (ITB Clause 8.1 of SBB Nr. DND-PAPMC 155-2015-002) issued for the project primarily pertaining to the aspect of what parts of the gun can be subcontracted, which must first be corrected. Be that as it may, ESL was declared the lone bidder and no other bids will be accepted thereafter. The opening of ESL's bid tender is set for April 14, 2015 at 1:00PM (SBB Nr. DND-PAPMC 155-2015-003).

    Similar to the two previous biddings, subcontracting is allowed (including ammunition) for all components except the three major parts, Barrel, Breach Block and the Undercarriage.

    Also, the bid is for 39Cal. to 52Cal. guns, with a minimum range of 20kms and a kill radius of 100meters. But of course, given the very very tight budget of the project, one can expect that only the 39Cal. will be supplied.

    Lastly, there is only one reason why most manufacturers (U.S., Korea, Russia, Turkey, etc.) of these 155mm Howitzers stayed out of the bidding. The ABC for the project can't simply match with what was required. Take note that this project has been in the pipeline since 2010 and priced accordingly and the SARO issued for it only in 2012.

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  17. Anonymous, can you PM me in the MaxDefense @ FB page? Thanks.

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  18. Nkka disappoint lng mag byad ng tax tapos ssbihin nila walang sapat n budget pra s AFP.

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  19. Hi Sir Max,

    The withdrawal is official. Respond to my PM at FB and I will prove it to you.

    Best regards!

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    1. Thanks sir for sharing the info to us. Budget and ABCs hampering the modernization effort. tsk! tsk!

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  20. http://philippinefailblog.com/

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  21. puro delay and re-bid na lang ah. ang kupad ng system talaga parang walang urgency and modernization ng AFP. Wala talaga..tsk..tsk..tsk...

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  22. So back to stone age analog firing not computer aided ranging......balik sa bahala na bka matsanbahang tamaan......not proud of this poop.

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  23. 39 cal na naman dahil kapos na naman sa budget. Parati nalang tayong ganyan. Kailan ba tayo kukuha ng 52 cal? Anong klaseng bansa ba to? Mas pinahalagahan pa yata ang pag-ayos ng kalsada kaysa seguridad ng bansa.

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    1. tapos pag di nagagawa ung mga kalsada sa lugar mo kasi lubak lubak na nag rereklamo ka rin?? saan ba lulugar gobyerno sayo??tandaan mo tol, hindi lahat ng budget napupunta jan, marami tayo kailangan i upgrade, i modernize, kasama na rin ung budget para sa edukasyon, enprastraktura, sa agriculture, kung ano meron tayo, kailangnan pagkasyahin,

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  24. Very disappointing. I was expecting the Soltam Athos 155mm howitzer 52 cal with a range of 41km. Parati nalang tayong tinitipid. Nakakainis. Mas importante pa sa kanila ang maglagay ng malaking budget para sa pagayos ng mga kalsada kaysa seguridad ng bansa.

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  25. I also doubt kung totally brandnew yang mga soltam m-71 na yan. Tayo lang yata ang bumibili ng brandnew na soltam m-71. Sana dinagdagan nalang ng konti yung budget para makabili tayo ng soltam athos para makatikim naman tayo ng modernong artillery. 1975 pa yung m-71. Pilipinas lang ang gustong bumili at gumastos ng malaki para sa m-71. Bwesit na gobyerno to. Nakakainis mga opisyal sa DND.

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  26. Gumising nga kayo mga taga DND. 2016 na at bumibili parin kayo ng brandnew ng Soltam M-71. Yung ibang bansa nga gusto ng ibenta mga Soltam M-71 nila para magupgrade into the more modern Soltam Athos. Tapos kayo dyan bibilhan nyo lang kami ng Soltam M-71 tapos brandnew pa. Second-hand nalang sana binili nyo kung Soltam M-71 lang pala.

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  27. Let us all campaign against Chiz Escudero, Franklin Drilon and many other politicians who don't support the AFP Modernization Program. Let us not forget Bongbong Marcos who blames the government for escalating the tensions in the West Philippine Sea by seeking the help of the US. Bongbong Marcos still wants to maintain a friendly relationship with China despite China's aggressive behavior by building islands inside our territory. These politicians are very unpatriotic.

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